This is one of the BEST reasons to avoid the 'other' 4th USAFAD site... (Referring to reported Dialogue below)

Within HOURS of a BBC report hitting the internet about US forces raiding a house and killing someone,- "Duran" is claiming this is PROOF of lies, PROOF of our troops targeting civilians-

He idiotically reports: "WOW, there it is... Let's just hope the Iraqi ambassador or the BBC are "lying"... When in fact he is mocking, and feeling at the time he can get away with such a pathetic comment without "paying" for it, having to follow through or prove it later...

1. Within hours of the report, from Iraq, without any additional information or patience or caring if there is more data to come in the investigation, "Duran" has, through the attitude of his post, convicted a US Soldier of being busy killing civilians in Iraq.

2. Within hours of the report, from Iraq, without any additional information or patience or caring if there is more data to come in the investigation, "Duran" has stated he believes in the charges against the soldier, even though it is merely an Iraqi citizen "accusing" him of such attrocities, in the fog of war.

3. Even though the allegations were taken seriously by the U.S. Military, and we are at that point only dealing with allegations; and even though the US was insisting on an "inquiry" as the next course of action---"Duran" suggests that the soldier was proof positive of the US being busy killing civilians in Iraq!!!!!!!

He suggests the "allegation" is proof of the previous comment about the US being "busy killing civilians in Iraq".

Saying "WOW- there it is..." sounds to me like someone who is saying "there it IS! There is your PROOF!!!"...

It is ludicrous then, and ludicrous now, to assume that reports, as fighting goes on, are accurate and complete; that they are final and proof positive; and even if this soldier had killed a single civilian, I cannot see how that is proof of "your" country being "busy killing civilians"...

Ludicrous. Irresponsible. Sad. Pathetic.

These "Miller" and "Duran" folks are overzealous partisan hacks, and not deserved of your trust. Period. Avoid their site like the plague!!!

Instead, go to 4thusafad !!!